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August 11, 1998
QuestChat with Brent Wellman
Project Manager, 2GCHAS
NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Fri Sep 11 11:09:09 1998
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Hello to our early arriving Aerospace Team Online participants! The Aero
Team Online-Challenge chat with Brent Wellman from NASA Ames Research Center
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[ Bruce-D.E.Carlisle/CarlisleAlternative -
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Hello.
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Hello and welcome to today's Aerospace Team Online chat with Brent Wellman
from NASA Ames Research Center! Brent works with a computer program called
the Second-Generation Comprehensive Helicopter Analysis System (2GCHAS)
to create models of helicopters or similar aircraft. He and other engineers
use the computer program to determine solutions to certain conditions
they enter into a computer. Brent also manages engineers outside NASA,
is learning how to operate a large wind tunnel, and investiages problems
that occur within his field of work.
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And now, here is Brent Wellman to answer your questions.
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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Hi everyone!
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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I am trained as a mechanical and aeronautical engineer, as well as software,
so I'll be happy to answer your questioons about planes, helicopters and
such, not just the computer code.
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Sarah/GreenmeadowSchool] Brent, do you
investigate airplane and helicopter crashes?
Not so far. Ground-based accidents (and wind tunnels), only.
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Bruce-D.E.Carlisle/CarlisleAlternative]
Hello Mr. Wellman. I was wondering what you did on the V-22 Osprey project?
Did you enjoy it?
I was team leader for XV-15 testing here at NASA/Ames. I loved it! The
XV-15 was the predecessor to the V-22. I did nothing on the V-22 PROJECT
ITSELF.
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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I guess you've all figured out by now that although I do work with computers
all day, I am not a great typist!...
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Sarah/GreenmeadowSchool] Is the 2GCHAS
software being used yet?
2GCHAS is being used by all of the major U.S. manufacturers of helicopters
(Bell, Boeing, Sikorsky, etc.) and by the U.S. Army. Several universities
use it, too. UNLV and Purdue have just asked for copies.
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Bruce-D.E.Carlisle/CarlisleAlternative]
What does 2GCHAS do exactly?
2GCHAS is what is called a comprehensive code. It very nearly does everything!
If an engineer wants to know it, 2GCHAS must (somehow) provide it!
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [KJ-KJ/TallahasseeHomeschoolGroup] I am
in 2nd grade,homeschooling. I want to make a flyer. I know I can not make
a real plane. So I would like to know how I could make wings that would
fly. I know I am young to do this. My mom wants me to try if I want though.
Thank you
There are many ways to make wing that fly out of just paper. In fact,
kites are wings, and children build them all the time. I have a favorite
kind of paper airplane I have made since about your age, and if there
is interest, I'll post instructions on the web site, so you all can build
it, too.
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Sarah/GreenmeadowSchool] Can your software
be used to design tiltrotors?
Yep. It isn't a design code, though. There are other programs for that.
2GCHAS will tell engineers how *well* it will fly.
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Elena-Elena] Hello everyone, Brent What
is the fast helicopter thata you know?
The fastest helicopter is a British model known as the Lynx with a special
rotor system with BERP (pronounced "burp") tips.
[ Oran/NASAChatHost
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RE: [KJ/TallahasseeHomeschoolGroup] I thought
Mr. Wellman would say something back. Mr. Oran, how long should it take
to get answers back from Mr. Wellman?
KJ, You will need to be patient during the chat as Mr. Wellman answers
each question as quickly as he can.
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [KJ-KJ/TallahasseeHomeschoolGroup] Could
I use a spud gun idea and make it shoot a small plane out instead of a
potato?
I don't see why not. I might try attaching a paper cone over the muzzle,
so the plane could get a boost from the gun...Good luck, and please practice
outdoors.
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Bruce-D.E.Carlisle/CarlisleAlternative]
How can 2GCHAS tell an engineer how well an object will fly?
2GCHAS can compute what the airloads are on the rotor blades. Some of
those loads lift the rotor and helicopter into the air (LIFT). Other loads
(DRAG) place a load on the engine, and tell the engineer how much power
it will take to fly (and how big an engine he will need).
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [KJ/TallahasseeHomeschoolGroup] Yes please.
I would like directions for a GOOD paper airplane. My mom and dad make
some, but they are not real good. If you were me and wanted to learn more
about flight and what makes things fly, what would you do?
I'd read a lot. Read all the books you can find on airplanes and science.
[ Oran/NASAChatHost
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[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Bruce-D.E.Carlisle/CarlisleAlternative]
That must be one nice piece of equipment. My sister (Morgan) would like
to know: How long have you worked for NASA?
I have been here for 17 years. Still a whipper-snapper compared to others
here (One esteemed NASA Ames engineer just celebrated his 80th birthday---by
hang gliding in Yosemite!).
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [KJ/TallahasseeHomeschoolGroup] In your
story about yourself, you said you worked with rockets. Is there something
we could make to see cumbastan work that wont cost much money? Does Nasa
have anything that teaches that stuff to kids?
NASA is very committed to teaching children about rockets and space. There
is a teacher center here at Ames where your teacher could get a lot of
cool stuff to teach about air and space. Cheap rockets may be had from
Edmund Scientific or Estes Rockets; I used to SLEEP with their catalogs
when I was a lad...
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [BrentWellman/ARC] NASA is very committed to teaching
children about rockets and space. There is a teacher center here at Ames
where your teacher could get a lot of cool stuff to teach about air and
space. Cheap rockets may be had from Edmund Scientific or Estes Rockets;
I used to SLEEP with their catalogs when I was a lad...
There is also an internet newsgroup on model rocketry. You can exchange
ideas with other folks who are building and flying rockets.
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Bruce-D.E.Carlisle/CarlisleAlternative]
Wow. Do you think that 2GCHAS is the future of areonautics engineering?
Is there anything better on the way?
Well, yes, actually. We are working on an enhanced version of 2GCHAS that
takes advantage of advances in computer science in the past several years.
We don't know at this point if we will call it 2GCHAS (perhaps 3GCHAS,
or CHAS2000, or something). Computer programs are the future (heck, they
are the PRESENT) of ALL engineering. 2GCHAS is but one of many tools to
use.
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [BrentWellman/ARC] NASA is very committed to teaching
children about rockets and space. There is a teacher center here at Ames
where your teacher could get a lot of cool stuff to teach about air and
space. Cheap rockets may be had from Edmund Scientific or Estes Rockets;
I used to SLEEP with their catalogs when I was a lad...
You should turn to http://www.edmundscientific.com/consumer/index.html
after this web chat...
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RE: [KJ/TallahasseeHomeschoolGroup] Would you
know the URL or email address for model rocketry? I would love that. I
am so glad I did this. I never talked in a chat room before. I will come
back often to chat with other people when the time comes. I will probably
be a scientist some day. At least an engineer like you. Thank you, I need
to go now. Thank you Mr. Oran too. Bye!
KJ, thank you for joining us today. Be sure to let us know what you thought
about the chat by using our feedback forms at http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/qchats/qchat-surveys.
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[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [KJ/TallahasseeHomeschoolGroup] Would you
know the URL or email address for model rocketry? I would love that. I
am so glad I did this. I never talked in a chat room before. I will come
back often to chat with other people when the time comes. I will probably
be a scientist some day. At least an engineer like you. Thank you, I need
to go now. Thank you Mr. Oran too. Bye!
You should turn to http://www.edmundscientific.com/consumer/index.html
after this web chat...
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Bruce-D.E.Carlisle/CarlisleAlternative]
Are there any other software programs that you use along with 2GCHAS?
I use many tools. I use MATLAB and Mathematica for math modeling. I use
Extend for simulation. I use Microsoft Office for mundane stuff. I use
several editing and debugging programs to get out my product. In a real
sense, I use programs to make programs!
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Sarah/GreenmeadowSchool] Brent what are
the hot questions being worked on in helicopter design? I guess noise
is one.
You guessed right! Noise is important for military purposes (to get to
targets quietly) and to commercial operators (quiet helos can get nearer
to offices and the like where they can do the most economic good).
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Sarah/GreenmeadowSchool] Did you ever
ride in a helicopter? a tiltrotor?
Many times in a helicopter. The XV-15 was for research, so pilots, only
get to go up. I haven't had the opportunity to take a ride in a V-22,
yet.
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Bruce-D.E.Carlisle/CarlisleAlternative]
Exactly how would the noise that helicopters produce be silenced?
Good question! One you could build a career on. There are several mechanisms
that create the noise a helicopter makes. The cures for one noise source
tends to make other noise sources worse. It is a VERY difficult problem.
[ Oran/NASAChatHost
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[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Sarah/GreenmeadowSchool] Does a tilt rotor
lose altitude when the rotors tilt?
If you are not careful, yes. Once, while we were testing the XV-15, the
pilots attempted to convert to airplane mode from a hover, using just
the guts (tiltrotor have LOTS of power--they're hot rods!) to get up to
speed. As you might guess, before he got going fast enough, he lost altitude.
Fortunately, the area he flew to was downhill, so he landed safely, but
not without grass stains on his rotor tips...true story.
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Sarah/GreenmeadowSchool] Why is Ames Research
Center the lead for Rotorcraft?
'Cause HQ sez so. Actually, we have a lot of expertise out here that would
be difficult for NASA to match elsewhere. It simply makes sense.
[ Sarah/GreenmeadowSchool - 66 - 11:00:16
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Thanks for your answers! I learn with each question you answer.
[ Oran/NASAChatHost
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RE: [Sarah/GreenmeadowSchool] Thanks for your
answers! I learn with each question you answer.
Thank you for joining us today, Sarah.
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Bruce-D.E.Carlisle/CarlisleAlternative]
Is art a major part in NASA? If so what else would an artist need to get
in??
Have you seen Buzz Aldrin's paintings (he is a pointilist)? Actually,
there are proposals to fly a poet or artist on the shuttle. It is thought
that such a person can communicate the wonder of space flight better that
engineers can. If you want to do that, become the best artist you know
how to be, and when the opportunity comes, express an interest...
[ Oran/NASAChatHost
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This concludes today's chat with Brent Wellman from NASA Ames Research
Center. Thank you to everyone for joining us today, and a special thanks
to Brent Wellman for chatting and sharing his expertise with us!
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Sarah/GreenmeadowSchool] Thanks for your
answers! I learn with each question you answer.
Thanks, but I'm no substitute for your lessons...
[ Oran/NASAChatHost
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Please join us on Tuesday, September 15 at 9:30 a.m. for our ADTO chat
with Stephen Jaeger from NASA Ames Research Center.
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RE: [Bruce-D.E.Carlisle/CarlisleAlternative]
Thanks a lot! I know I have kept you two longer than I should have. For
that I apologize. Anyway, it has been fun! Good bye and good luck!
Bruce, we're happy you could join us today. We'll try to extend our time
online with NASA experts in the future. Please join us again!
[ BrentWellman/ARC
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RE: [Bruce-D.E.Carlisle/CarlisleAlternative]
Thanks a lot! I know I have kept you two longer than I should have. For
that I apologize. Anyway, it has been fun! Good bye and good luck!
Glad to be here, bye!
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