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>>Good morning.

Welcome to NASA Ames.

I'm Tom Clausen with the education office and we're glad you were able to come today and appreciative of the teachers and the principals and buses and all the things that have to come together.

We've been preparing for this day for awhile.

We'll do three things together.

You'll be here about an hour and then from here you'll go on your tours.

You're going to different places but you'll stay together as a group.

It's important to stay together as a group.

You'll see some of the research facilities at Ames and also lots of things other than that as you drive and walk around.

Then when you're finished with the tour you'll go down to the NASA hangar, building 211 where we've set up hands-on activities for you to participate in.

Lots of fun down there.

We'll see you there.

Let's make sure everybody is here.

Call out if you're here.

Where is MONTOBELLO school.

Are you here?

Really.

Okay.

J.L.S., are you here?

There we go.

Okay.

Baldwin school, Baldwin.

Seaview.

KURTNOR.

ULOA.

Linda vista.

Okay, we'll come back.

MONTEBELLO.

Much better.

Okay. 

Now, for this -- now this next hour you're going to be joined -- there is about 350 in you but we'll be joined by an audience watching from their computers and in school computer labs across the country from the WebCast.

At the end when we take questions we'll take some questions from the WebCast also.

In fact, as we go through this morning with Mr. Jacobsen, remember your questions.

I notice some of you have pen and pencil.

Jot those downs.

We'll save the questions for the end and be able to address those when we get to the close of our time here.

If for some reason we need to leave this room because of an emergency, we'll use both the doors on the sides and the doors that you came through.

But you'll stay together once again as a group.

Okay?

I would like you now to welcome our airspace systems program director, the person who brought this day together for you.

His name is Bob Jacobsen.

Please welcome him.

>> Good morning.

That's pretty exciting stuff, isn't it?

Well, I tell you that was the launch of the space shuttle Columbia last March from NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida.

The space shuttle is just an airplane.

As a matter of fact, it's a glider.

It has a rocket that helps take off but it has no engine when it returns.

It has to be right the first time to get on the ground.

We'll spend a few minutes this morning looking at where all of that came from.

And it basically started with the dreams of people who had a love of aviation and they held onto those dreams and they made them happen.

Well, it all began about 125 years ago with two brothers called the Wright brothers.

I want to ask you a question.

How many of you have flown?

In an airplane.

Yeah, quite a few of you.

How many of you would like to do it again or would like to if you haven't?

Good. 

Okay.

Let me ask you one other question.

Have you ever dreamed of something that you would like to do that no one else has ever done before?

That's good.

That's good.

We want you to hold onto those dreams and someday you'll make them happen.

The Wright brothers lived in Dayton, Ohio.

And their father in 1878, that was almost 125 years ago, their father brought home one day a little toy.

This toy had a rubber band in it that you could wind up and this toy lifted off the ground and then it just fell back down.

Well, this peaked their interest in aviation and they never lost that interest and that dream that they wanted to fly.

So let's move forward now into about, oh, 1892.

Now, that is about 110 years ago.

I don't think any of you were there been, were you?

Neither was -- oh, he was, okay.

All right.

In 1892, 110 years ago the Wright brothers decided that what they wanted to do was open a bicycle shop.

It had become very popular as a mode of transportation in those days.

Most people moved around the countryside on horses or by horse-drawn buggies.

So the bicycle was a big improvement for around the towns.

So they opened a bicycle shop in Dayton, Ohio.

Now, that bicycle shop was pretty successful and they spent a lot of time at it.

They made bicycles as well as selling them and fixing them so they had the capability to build things.

It was successful and they spent about the next eight years pursuing, along with selling bicycles and making bicycles, pursuing their love of aviation and their dream of flying.

In the year 1900, the turn of the century, the Wright brothers needed to go someplace which had more wind and some slopes that they could glide down and some soft places to land for the flying machines that they were developing.

They didn't have those things in Dayton in Ohio.

So they contacted the U.S. Weather Bureau and said where would you recommend we go?

The weather bureau said we think the best place for you is in a place called Kitty Hawk, North Carolina.

It's on a piece of sand, basically that's off the Atlantic coast of North Carolina called the outer banks.

Lots of sand dunes and steady winds coming off the Atlantic ocean.

The Wright brothers went there.

For the next couple of years they went back and forth to Kitty Hawk testing out the ideas they had for their flying machines.

Well, there were a couple of problems that were significant and big problems that they had with their flying machines that the other folks -- there were other people developing flying machines as well and everyone was having these problems.

One was control of the airplane.

How to keep the airplane balanced.

Well, Wilbur Wright liked watching the birds and how they fly.

So he looked at how they twist their wings to keep themselves balanced in the air.

And so he suggested that they build that kind of capability into their flying machine.

So they did.

They called it wing warping so it actually mimiced the ways the birds fly.

The other problem -- that was a first, by the way.

No one had ever done that before.

The next problem that was plaguing everyone was generating enough lift to have a successful airplane that could carry a person, as well as the weight of the airplane itself.

Well, that was a little bit more difficult because it wasn't -- there was nothing to watch to see how to solve that problem.

So being resourceful, they back in Dayton in the back room of their bicycle shop, they built a wind tunnel.

This is one of the first wind tunnels in the world.

It wasn't very big by today's standards but it was a wind tunnel and in that tunnel they tested little wings.

And those little wings, what they learned from those, was that the curvature of the wing was very, very important in generating lift.

And the other thing that they learned was that the angle -- we call it angle of attack.

The angle the wing makes with the air was the other most important thing.

So they incorporated some of these ideas into their flying machine.

And let me ask you a question.

How many of you have brothers or sisters?

Okay, a lot of you.

You ever argue with them?

Okay.

Well, the Wright brothers argued as well.

That's natural.

They didn't always agree at first on how to solve a problem.

But they always argued to a constructive end to develop a solution to the problems and they incorporated all of those solutions in their airplane.

Well, in 1902, they took their airplane back to Kitty Hawk and they flew it down the sand dunes of Kitty Hawk with a better wing and a control system.

And they made about 1,000 flights that year down these sand dunes and they were able to control their airplane, landing where they wanted to land rather than where the wind pushed them.

And this was a huge success in the world of developing flying machines.

Well, so they decided the next step was to -- was to be able to carry a person.

And go on level ground from one place to another.

They realized that in order to do that, they had to have some way of making the airplane move through the air so they needed an engine.

Well, I've already said that horses were the way that they did that for most people those days.

Well, it was pretty hard to put a horse on this airplane.

So what they did was they looked at the other ways that we had invented that were generating power.

Well, one of the popular -- one other popular transportation mode in those days was the railroad.

So they looked at the trains and how did they generate their power and how did they move?

Well, all of the trains back then were steam trains, steam engines.

Well, steam engines are big, they're generally pretty heavy, and they're not really suited for putting on an airplane.

Well, it just so happened that about the same time, the automobile was being invented.

Well, the automobile had the same problem.

And it needed an engine to make it move.

The automobile inventors had developed the gasoline engine.

And so the Wright brothers studied up on that engine and realized that this is their solution.

But the ones that existed that the automobile folks had developed were still too heavy for their airplane.

So the Wright brothers in their bicycle shop designed and built their own gasoline engine for their airplane.

So they put that engine on the bottom wing of their airplane and they made a place next to that engine for the pilot to lay down on the wing and gave him all the controls and in 1903 they took this airplane back to Kitty Hawk, North Carolina.

On December 17th in 1903, it's about 99 years ago next week, December 17th, history was made, aviation history was made with the first flight of a man-carrying powered airplane on the sand dunes of Kitty Hawk, North Carolina.

It was a huge, huge event in aviation history.

Now, the interesting thing is they flew this airplane.

It took off, it landed, but it only was in the air for 12 seconds.

That's not very long.

It only flew for 120 feet.

Well, let's see, 120 feet is less than half of a football field.

So it's not very far.

But the important thing was that they were not going downhill.

They took off and landed on relatively level ground.

So just a huge, huge success.

So there are lots of us that have these dreams.

And NASA is full of people that are like that.

And we're going to take some time now.

We're through with the history lesson for a while.

We'll take some time now and look at some of the things that NASA has done recently to develop new technologies in the aviation world.

The first one that we're going to look at is Helios.

Now, Helios is an airplane that NASA designed for one purpose.

And that purpose was to fly at very high altitudes and stay up there for very long times.

High altitudes, I mean about 100,000 feet.

100,000 feet is about three or four times as high as passenger jets fly today.

And it's about 20 miles straight up.

This would have been -- if we could do this this would be a world record for propeller-driven airplanes.

That was one of the goals.

The other one is to stay up a long time.

And not just hours, days.

Stay up there for a very long time.

There are uses for such a machine.

So NASA decided that if you can't come down and land because you're supposed to be up there, you have to have some way of getting power.

So on this airplane they put solar cells.

So there are solar cells all over the top surface of this wing.

During the daylight, the sun's energy that falls on that wing is converted into electricity by the solar cells.

That electricity does two things during the day.

It powers the electric motors on this airplane, there are 14 of them.

And what power it doesn't need, what electrical energy it doesn't need for that it puts in batteries so at night with no sunlight the batteries continue to power these motors and this airplane can continue to fly.

The next day the sun comes up and it just keeps on going.

Great accomplishment.

Now, this airplane is not very rugged.

It is very lightweight relatively speaking and it is very big.

It may not look that big here but that wing span from tip to tip is 247 feet.

Now, that's twice as far as the Wright brothers flew on their first flight and it's almost the length of a football field.

So it's a very big airplane.

So let's take a look now at how NASA built this airplane and the flights that we had that were so successful.

(music)(music) >> Are you ready?

>> When Tom gets in, have him get on right away so we can proceed with the aircraft powerup.

>> Clear aircraft.

Coming up for takeoff now.

>> Okay.

You're airborne.

>> Roger.

>> Air speed 32.

>> Roger.

>> Go ahead, NASA 2.

>> We've been watching you bounce around now.

It's probably a record flight.

Congratulations.

I think it's time to turn around.

>> Let's get behind it.

>> That was beautiful.

And please stop so all brakes can get out and all brakes in good shape.

Please take control of the aircraft.

[APPLAUSE]

>> Well, as you can tell we get excited when we do something that is important as well.

I wanted to tell you that flight was flown in Hawaii, in case you didn't recognize all the palm trees.

One of the questions that seems to be important is where do the people come from that do this kind of thing?

Let me tell you a little bit about where I grew up and how I got here.

I grew up in the central valley in California over near Fresno.

I had always loved airplanes from the time I was very young.

And when I was about your age, I began building model airplanes.

And I still build them today.

I think they're a fun and exciting way to enjoy my spare time but also to learn while I'm doing it.

Well, all the way through school, in grade school, in junior high, in high school and even in college, I always had a teacher that was encouraging me to follow my dreams.

And supporting me in doing that.

And never to let go of those dreams.

I did lots of things.

I built an addition to model airplanes in those days.

I built model rockets.

Rockets while I was in high school got to be a big deal.

Well, I tell you what, I wasn't real good at model rockets.

Most of mine didn't work.

They either didn't work or they blew up when they did work.

But that didn't stop me.

I enjoyed doing it so I built another one.

I even did that while I was in college.

I had a job for a while working for a company that builds big rockets.

And I designed some of those.

I'll tell you what, the one I designed blew up there, too.

So these -- the development of new ideas is never a smooth road.

And you just have to hold on to those dreams and work at them and you can make them happen.

So let's now look at some of the things now that we're doing in NASA currently today.

And we've spent a lot of time in NASA over the years, including me, looking at how to make airplanes fly better.

Well, a few years ago, we realized that making a single airplane fly better is not all of the answer.

We also need to be able to make all of the airplanes in the air at the same time fly efficiently together, but yet stay apart and land safely.

That's the job of air traffic controllers.

I want -- we're going to look at a video now that represents -- it will look to you initially like a bunch of yellow ants crawling all over something like a sugar cube, but it's not.

Each of the little triangles represents an airplane and this is a map of the United States.

We've taken one day of air transportation in the United States and condensed it to play in one minute.

Or thereabouts.

Okay?

And what you're going to see is -- it is going to start at about 4:00 in the afternoon here on the west coast and it is going to get dark.

Not on the picture, but in real life it will have gotten dark and you'll see what happens to the air traffic.

And then it's nighttime and then the sun is going to come out and it starts first on the east coast and comes up on the west coast.

So we'll see what happens to the air traffic and when we come back, I want to -- I'm going to ask how many airplanes you think are flying over the United States right now while we're talking.

Let's run the video.

Okay, so it's getting toward dark now.

The sun is going down.

Not as many people want to fly at night so there aren't as many airplanes in the air.

But then who flies at night?

Well, it's the Fed Ex and UPS and the guys that carry cargo.

So you see it started in the Midwest.

Now the sun is coming up on the east coast and all these airplanes are coming back.

These coming up here are coming in from Europe.

These are going to South America.

And then the west coast comes alive as the sun moves across and the airplanes from the east coast get there.

So what that picture tells you is that there are a lot of airplanes in the air over the United States.

Now, there are about -- well, there are over 5,000 airplanes flying over the United States right now while we're talking.

And it's the job of the air traffic controller to keep all of those airplanes apart and to make sure they land safely.

Well, you've all been to -- well, maybe not all of you, but most of you have been flying so when you went to the airport, maybe you saw the control tower.

Well, the control tower is one place where air traffic control is managed.

Air traffic is managed by controllers.

Well, at the control tower the thing that you'll notice is that there are windows all the way around it so the controllers can see all of the airport and the airplanes that are arriving and departing at that airport.

Well, we built, in order to study these problems and develop new solutions and bring new technology to this profession, we developed a simulator here of a control tower.

We call it FutureFlight Central.

Well -- but it doesn't have any windows that look out over anything.

But what it does have, instead of windows, is a whole circle of computer screens.

And those computer screens are just like the video games that you guys play.

So this is kind of NASA's ultimate video game.

But with this tool, we can simulate and replicate any airport in the world by programming that airport's characteristics into our computers.

So it's an exciting tool that we use.

Well now we've looked at some of the things that we have done and we've talked about -- we've talked about altitudes and airplanes designed for specific purposes.

We've talked about air traffic control.

Now I want to look at some of the airplanes, some of the new airplanes that NASA is working on.

And most of these airplanes -- all of these airplanes are designed to do a job.

And do that job well.

This is just to indicate that there are several kinds of airplanes required.

And we're going to talk a little bit about those.

We have airports that are a long ways apart from each other.

Airports, and we need airplanes to carry people from -- between those.

We want to go around the world so we want to develop very fast airplanes to do that so the time is reduced.

So we have that kind of technology.

The Helios airplane, by the way, didn't have a pilot on it.

It was flown from the ground by radio.

There will be a need for those kinds of airplanes in the future.

That's these guys.

And then there is the launch vehicle so the rockets that we're going to need.

Well, these airplanes many people, not just NASA, are helping to design these airplanes of the future.

This airplane is the newest airplane designed by Boeing.

Now, Boeing is the largest airplane manufacturer in the world.

And this airplane is called the sonic cruiser.

The reason they call that the sonic cruiser is that it flies at nearly the speed of sound.

And it will carry about as many or maybe a few more passengers than passenger airline -- passenger jets today.

And it will fly about the same distances but it will go faster so it is going to be a more efficient system forgetting  -- for getting you where you want to go.

This is an airplane that NASA built and it is a series in what we call our X planes.

X is for  experimental.

This is the hyper X.

It's a hyper sonic airplane.

That means that this airplane flies many times the speed of sound.

This one is designed to fly at mock 7.

Seven times the speed of sound up to mock 10.

To put that into perspective for you, let's say you're driving down the highway in the car with your folks and you're going at 60 miles-per-hour.

That is pretty common today.

At 60 miles-per-hour you travel one mile in one minute.

That's what 6 miles-per-hour is.

Well, at MACH7 this airplane flies at 3,600 miles-per-hour and that is one mile every second.

So that's an airplane that could get you from here to, say, Tokyo in a reasonably short amount of time.

That's why we work on that design.

The next one we're going to look at is an airplane that we call the morphing wing.

This airplane is a little earlier in its stages of development.

In order to build this kind of an airplane we have to develop the materials that it's made of.

The reason for that is that this airplane is designed with what we call smart materials.

Now, smart materials are metals that you can put electricity on and they change shape.

They move.

Its -- no hinges or anything, they just move.

If you put those kinds of materials in the right places on the wing of this airplane, and you apply the electricity in the right place at the right time, you can change the shape of this wing.

You can make it curve more so you generate more lift like the Wright brothers found out with their wind tunnel was needed.

Or you can put it on the wing in such a way that you can vary its angle of sweep, we call it.

At high speeds it's more efficient.

We can change this airplane to be more efficient and all the various conditions that it has to fly in.

So there is the last airplane I want to look at here.

This is called a personal air vehicle.

Today it would be sort of the equivalent of what you might talk about as a light airplane.

It's about the same size as that.

Has a jet engine.

But the thing that's really different about this airplane is it has a computer on board.

And that computer not only helps the pilot, that computer flies the airplane.

And you don't have to learn how to fly to travel in an airplane like this.

You just get in this airplane and you tell it I want to go to Fresno and it will take you there.

So we're going to look at how this might work.

>> I was afraid this would happen.

Look at the Thanksgiving day traffic.

>>  Can we get around it?

>> No, we're stuck.

>> When are we going to get there?

>> Hard to say but we could be here for a while.

I better call grandma, it could be hours.

>> Are we there yet?

>> No, not yet.

Let's find out how much longer it will be.

Computer, what is our arrival time?

>> Estimated time of arrival is 2:32 p.m.>> Computer, how much longer?

>> Approximately 45 minutes.

Advisory, severe icing conditions ahead due to developing weather front.

Recommend course change.

>> Honey, will we still get there on time?

>> Computer, we want to arrive on time.

Can you adjust our course and still get us there as planned?

>> Yes.

>> Computer, alter course.

>> Altering course and increasing speed to 276 knots.

Estimated time of arrival is now 2:30 p.m.  Advisory, traffic conflict ahead.

Altering course to avoid unidentified aircraft.

>> It's too bad all planes are not completely automated yet.

Flying sure would be safer.

>> And easier.

That old plane looked like a prop job my dad flew.

It was a handful.

I don't know how they did it in those days.

Computer, activate the artificial vision display.

I'm checking a few things.

I downloaded an update for the computer software and wanted to make sure everything is okay.

>> Who is going to be at grandpa and grandma's house?

>> Uncle Larry, aunt Beth.

Hi, mom.

Just fine.

We'll be on the ground in about ten minutes.

>> How are you doing?

>> Hey, grandpa.

>> Hi, grandma.

Good to see you again.

>> That would be pretty neat, wouldn't it?

Well, this -- we aren't quite there yet.

This is what it might look like but we're working on the technologies now to make that happen.

So now I want to -- I want to ask you guys a question.

Who is going to develop all these technologies and make them happen in the future?

Before you answer, most of you might say it's us.

But, in fact, it's you.

You're the ones that are going to do all of these things.

Because we need you -- we need you to make this happen.

At NASA, we spend our -- we spend all of our lives, all of our time, developing new technologies, holding onto those dreams that we've had, working at those dreams and making them happen.

I want you to do that, too.

Because we do that every day here at NASA.

Thanks a lot.

And we're going to take some questions now.

>> Yes, we are.

Thank you, Mr. Jacobsen.

Thank you very much.

[APPLAUSE]

>> Now, if you have questions we would like you to raise your hand and Leslie and Jeff and some of the other folks helping here will have you come down here to the microphone.

When you get to here we would like you to tell us your name and the school that you're with.

And then every once in a while we'll check with folks on the WebCast to see if there is questions coming in there.

>> I'm Rita from Baldwin school.

I have a question about what year you think all this technology would happen?

>> What year might all of this technology happen?

Some of this technology is closer than others, obviously.

The Boeing airplane I showed is going to be available in probably five years or so.

The hyper sonic airplane.

We've tested that now in small models.

The computerized airplane is probably a few years away.

Maybe 15 or 20 years.

But parts of it are going to be in the next generation of business airplanes.

>> What's the fastest airplane?

>> Oh, boy, the fastest airplane?

Well, one of the fastest airplanes that's flying today is one of these models right here, this black one right here.

And that airplane flies at about Mach 3 or so.

The hyper sonic airplanes there we've flown models of that at mach7.

>> How many different kind of airplanes are there?

>> Oh, wow, you ask hard questions here.

Boy, there must be hundreds.

There are lots of different kinds of airplanes.

And those airplanes, most of them are designed for different purposes so there are -- I couldn't guess.

There are hundreds of them.

>> Thanks.

>> My name is SOFIE.

I go to J.L.S.

If there are planes that are flying at like the speed of sound, how would you like schedule their arrival time when they're going so fast?

>> Well, that's a really good question.

One of the problems that we're working on now in air traffic management, the technology we're developing, is the ability to manage airplanes that fly at different speeds.

Right now most airplanes are required to fly at about the same speed.

But if we have very fast airplanes mixed in with slower ones then managing that traffic and assuring the schedules are kept is a big problem we're working on.

Good question.

>> Hold on just for a minute we're going to take a question now from the WebCast and we'll come back to you.

Stay right here.

>> Hi, Bob.

We have a question here.

Let me see if I can figure out the name.

I'm sorry, there is no name.

What is your favorite aircraft to fly or fly in?

>> Oh, what is my favorite aircraft to fly or fly in?

I'm a pilot and I fly my own airplane.

It's one of the airplanes that I love to fly in, a Beechcraft.

But, let's see, I happen to like -- maybe I'm partial but I happen to like Boeing airplanes and a big competitor for Boeing is -- who is it?

Airbus.

Thank you very much.

My mind went away there for a minute.

And you've probably -- those of you have flown very much have probably flown in both those kinds of airplanes.

The airplane I like the most although I've never been able to fly it is called a T-38.

A trainer, a military trainer airplane and it is in my mind the most beautiful airplane in the world.

>> My name is Jackie.

In the future do you think that the technology will change so that launching a space shuttle easier?

>> Yes, absolutely.

One of the questions earlier asked things about fastest airplanes and those kinds of questions.

Well, I forgot that there are space shuttles there.

Of course they're very fast but it is a little bit different condition.

But yes, in the future NASA will be leading the way in developing vehicles that will leave from the space station and go into outer space, yes.

>> My name is Josh.

>> Okay.

Cindy asks, were you ever tempted to give up, especially with not a lot of support from your family?

What was the hardest thing you had to accomplish to get where you are today?

>> What was the hardest thing?

Well, first of all I will tell you that yes, when I left high school and went to college, not all of my family thought it was the smartest thing that I could do.

But I tell you, I thought it was so I did it.

What was the last part of that question?

>> The hardest thing you had to accomplish to get where you are today.

>> The hardest thing.

I'll tell you what.

The hardest thing I had to accomplish was probably, in all, the tests that I had to take in school.

And that's hard and I'm sure you guys think it's hard as well.

And -- but they're important because that's how we know that you've learned what you need to know.

>> My name is Josh.

I want to know your estimate on how much the computerized plane would cost.

>> Well, I'll tell you that's a hard question to answer.

The goals for that kind of an airplane are so that it will cost -- these will sound like big money and it is, will cost -- the goal is to have it cost less than $500,000.

It's a lot of money.

It's about the cost of maybe a house in this area.

But the hope is that the technology, as it gets developed, will reduce in cost.

Much like computers have over the years.

And so it is not inexpensive.

It will take quite an investment.

That's why those airplanes may not be owned specifically by individual people, but rather by a company like hertz rent a plane that you go take that airplane for the trip.

>> Thank you.

>> Hi, my name is Kenny.

I'm from Baldwin school.

My question is do you think it would be possible for humans to land on Mars in the near future?

>> I'll tell you what, I think you're the one that will answer that question.

I think in the future whether we go to Mars or not is going to be developed by the people in this -- in this audience.

And my guess is we're going to go there, but I can't tell you when.

We have a question from the web?

>> Yes, I do.

I have a question, I believe it's from L.A.

Whether it's the city or a person I'm not sure.

But it says how did the Wright brothers know how to build the wind tunnel?

>> Good question.

Next time I see them, I'll ask them.

I don't know how they knew.

There is no way I can know other than they had a very intuitive feel for what kinds of things were needed to be done in order to answer the questions that they had.

But you're right.

It's not obvious that moving a wing through the air or moving the air past a wing is the same thing.

But the Wright brothers could see that it was.

>> Actually, for students who would like to, we will be having a chat with the Wright brothers on the 17th and so check the calendar at quest.NASA.GOV/calendar and you can chat with the Wright brothers.

>> Maybe I'll get online on learn something, okay.

>> I'm Thomas.

My question is, about how many airplanes did NASA build and about how many do you think NASA will build more in the future?

>> How many airplanes has NASA built?

NASA does a couple of different kinds of things with airplanes.

There are some airplanes called experimental airplanes that is the series of X planes that we have built.

The one you saw here, the hyper X is X43, pretty much a series of numbers so that means we've built approximately 43 of those experimental airplanes.

In addition to that we buy airplanes and we modify them to change them to study specific things.

And there have been a number of those.

So we -- we've built quite a few airplanes we've done experiments on.

>> Hi My name is Diane.

I want to know who is the youngest person that's ever flown in space?

Who is the youngest person that has ever flown in space?

>> Youngest person?

Boy, I don't know the answer to that.

If anybody does here.

I tell you what, we're finding out because we want to know who you are and we'll find the answer and we'll find you this afternoon and we'll tell you because I don't know the answer.

I think it was just recently but I can't remember.

Good question.

>> My name is MATAL from JLS.

I want to know how many airplanes and space ships were there built in between from the first plane and the latest invention?

>> How many airplanes?

Well, it's thousands of airplanes that have been built.

It would be hard for me to guess.

Boy, I just don't know.

Boeing has built several thousand 737's and several -- and well into the thousands 757's and 767's.

I would have to make a guess there has probably been, oh, probably 10,000 passenger airplanes built.

And light airplanes I can tell you that in 1979 there were 17,000 light airplanes built in that one year.

So there are a lot of airplanes.

>> Let's take another question from the web.

>> Okay.

Question here says is NASA building a new shuttle?

>> NASA has decided at this time to extend the life of the shuttle fleet that we have.

And I'm not -- I'm not aware of us building another shuttle aircraft.

Rather, we're upgrading the ones we have and we're focusing on developing the next generation of space transportation system.

It's called an orbital space plane and you'll see pictures of that that will come out in the press.

>> I'm Allen.

Will there ever be another solar glider that will be piloted from the actual glider?

>> Well, not powered from it but like it, yeah, there sure will be.

There are companies now that are -- that are building remotely-piloted vehicles or UAV's like that.

Some of which are solar powered and their intention is to replace satellites for communication systems in some instances.

So you'd have an airplane at very high altitude orbiting over a major metropolitan area so your cell phones can communicate with that.

Much more efficient from a cost standpoint than a satellite.

So yes, there will be.

I can assure you.

>> My name is Patricia and I'm from J.L.S. middle school.

My question is how fast does the sonic cruiser go?

>> How fast does it go?

>> Yeah.

>> Well, let's see.

It flies at mach.98.

Almost the speed of sound.

That means it's flying at about 650 miles-per-hour or so at sea level.

And the way the atmosphere works, that means that at altitude it would probably be flying at close to 1,000 miles-per-hour.

>> My name is Emily.

I'm asking how much would it be to make -- how much money would it take to make one of these hi-tech airplanes?

>> How much money?

How much have you got?

That's right.

I'll take every dime you've got and we'll do it.

We -- the way NASA works, let me just tell you, is that all of your parents pay for me to do what I do.

And they pay that through your taxes.

You hear your parents talk about taxes all the time.

Okay.

So we're part of the federal government and the federal government gives us money to do these things.

And the development costs of some of these technologies is quite high.

And so the government here in the United States pays for that technology development and then gives that technology to the companies that want to use it to build airplanes.

So some of the technology we've developed went to Boeing and they are going to put that in the sonic cruiser.

It takes quite a bit of money.

>> Let's take another one from the web.

>> Jeremy from the web asks, where do you see NASA flight technology in ten years?

>> Where do I see it?

Well, I think that in the next ten years from a NASA standpoint, some of these airplanes that you saw here we're going to be flying.

I think some of the technologies for that computerized airplane that we showed, we'll be flying in the next ten years.

We're going to show that that technology is possible.

And then as I answered in the previous question, then we take that technology and we offer that to anybody, any company that wants to come and take that technology and build it into their airplanes and it is up to them to decide how much that airplane is going to cost.

>> I'm Jessica.

And I was wondering if there is a computer as hi-tech as the one in that movie that can change the airplane's course?

>> The computer as what?

>> As hi-tech.

>> As hi-tech.

Yeah.

As a matter of fact, we have several computers here, right here, that are actually more hi-tech than a computer that would be required for that.

The challenge in that airplane is to hook the computer to all of the things that have to be -- that have to be managed in the airplane.

That have to be run.

The computer itself, we have those computers today.

We have computers that can do a lot more than that.

>> I'm Phillip.

My question is, how many years does it take to make each new aircraft?

>> Okay.

How many years does it take to make each new aircraft?

Well, there are two pieces to that that I'm going to answer on that.

One is for the kinds of airplanes that we are looking at here today, there is a technology development piece.

Because they're pretty advanced, okay?

Well, that's the piece that NASA does.

And that can take, oh, -- it can take up to 15, 20 years to develop that technology.

And then there is the piece of building an airplane that a company wants to sell.

And typically that process takes about five years, I would say, on that order.

>> Let's go to the web for another question.

>> Okay.

Dan wants to know what kinds of innovative flight projects are you working on now?

>> What am I working on now?

I've been spending the last few years and anticipate spending the next few years in the air traffic management business looking at how we keep -- how we safely manage all of these new airplanes that we're going to have flying in the United States.

But we also, because some of these airplanes, some of this technology is designed to make it easier to fly around the world, we can no longer look at just managing the airplanes in this country.

We have to consider how they're managed all the way around the world.

So we work with the Europeans and with the pacific rim to make sure that we are integrated in how we manage that.

So I kind of left the specific airplane business a few years ago and I work now on managing the system of airplanes that we have to take people places.

>> My question is when did NASA begin?

>> When did NASA begin?

Well, NASA began back in the -- not too long after the Wright brothers flew, actually.

It was in the 19 teens somewhere in there.

I can't remember the exact date.

It didn't start as NASA.

Back in that day, what does the S stand for in NASA?

Space.

The S is for space.

Well, back when NASA -- what preceded NASA was started there wasn't any space work.

The Wright brothers hadn't gone quite that far so it was called NACA.

The national -- national advisory committee for aeronautics.

And this facility where we are today, Ames research center, was built in something around 1939.

That's when we started.

What changed it to NASA.

When NASA actually started was in 1958.

Does anybody know what happened in 1958 to cause that?

Yeah.

>> The Russians hadn't landed on the moon but you're right.

It was the Russians.

The Russians launched the first satellite called Sputnick.

It was changed to NASA at that time and we launched our space program.

Good question.

>> My name is Eugene.

How do pilots know where they're flying when they're in the air?

>> How do you know where you're flying?

>> Yes.

>> That's called navigation.

There are systems now that know where you are, radar that we use, that can see your airplane from the ground and then it tells you where you are.

But we have new technology that has just come up in the last few years called GPS, global positioning systems.

That's a satellite-based system where you have an instrument on the airplane that listens to signals from satellites and can figure out where you are and then it can tell you that directly.

So that technology is going to become more and more important as we look at these modern airplanes.

>> Okay.

I have one more from the chat room here.

Jackson wants to know what is the coolest project you've worked on for NASA?

>> Probably the coolest project that I worked on in terms of an airplane was the first project that I worked on when I came to Ames, which is a vertical takeoff transport airplane actually being built by a German company and it had ten engines on it and it was kind of an ugly-looking airplane but it could lift like a minivan straight up in the air and then fly forward at about 300 miles-per-hour.

Great airplane.

>> My name is Hannah.

My question is what is the biggest airplane and what is the smallest airplane?

>> The biggest airplane -- the biggest airplane today flying -- well, I'll give you two categories.

The biggest passenger airplane flying is, I think it's still the 747.

The large versions of the 747.

Airbus is designing a bigger airplane than that but it is not yet flying.

But the military has -- military airplanes are bigger and there is a Russian airplane that's the biggest cargo airplane in the world.

If you live around here you might see one land here.

It comes in and visits Lockheed across the way every once in a while.

The biggest one the U.S. has is the C-5.

A big cargo airplane.

Okay.

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