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Chat Archive of Sandra Olsen
Date: October 5, 2000
[ Susan/NASAChatHost - 0 - 11:49:23
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Hello and Welcome to the Chat with Sandra Olsen, a microgravity researcher
from Glenn Research Center! This chat will begin at 12:00 pm Pacific time.
You may submit questions before then but they will not appear until the
chats begin. Be sure to read Sandra's bio at http://quest.nasa.gov/women/bios/so.html
[ Susan/NASAChatHost - 2 - 11:51:55
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During the chat be sure to read everyone's questions to see if they ask
a question you were planning to ask. Also read Sandra's answers carefully,
they may give you ideas for new questions! At the end of the chat please
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[ Sandra - 4 - 11:58:27 ]
Hello everyone! I'm very happy to be here today. I'm looking forward to
answering your questions.
[ Sandra - 7 - 12:01:55 ]
RE: [Susan/NASAChatHost] Good
day Sandra!
It is a very exciting day for NASA, with the upcoming launch this evening!
While we here at NASA Glenn (which is in Cleveland, OH) don't have any
combustion experiments on this mission, we are very interested in seeing
the space station come together. It is truly an impressive facility, and
I'm looking forward to having experiments on board.
[ Sandra - 9 - 12:03:47 ]
RE: [Susan/NASAChatHost] Can
you tell us about what you are working on now!
I'm working on a number of combustion experiments that are slated to fly
on the International Space Station in a few years. Two will be conducted
in the Microgravity Science Glovebox Facility, and two will be conducted
in the Combustion Integrated Rack, both of which will be in the US Lab
module of ISS.
[ Sandra - 11 - 12:10:04 ]
RE: [Susan/NASAChatHost] When
you say Microgravity Glovebox Facility, What do you mean?
The MSG (NASA LOVES acronyms!) is a very flexible apparatus that accomodates
many different types of experiments. It is basically an enclosure that
provides a level of containment for chemicals so the space station stays
clean. We've had Glovebox facilities on the Shuttle for years, and they
have been extremely useful for conducting small scale experiments. The
space station Glovebox is much larger than the Shuttle Glovebox, so we
can do bigger experiments there.
[ Sandra - 14 - 12:15:56 ]
RE: [Susan/NASAChatHost] What
is the Combustion Integrated Rack?
The CIR is another facility that is specifically designed for combustion
experiments. It is being built here at NASA Glenn by a very capable team
of engineers who have a lot of experience making multiuser hardware. As
you can imagine, fire is one of the biggest dangers in space. After all,
you can't just run out of the building! So when we first proposed doing
combustion experiments on the Shuttle, we definitely raised some eyebrows.
But we proved the facilities were safe, and we have a long history of
safely conducting combustion experiments aboard the shuttle.
[ Sandra - 16 - 12:21:56 ]
RE: [Susan/NASAChatHost] Have
you made any new discoveries in microgravity lately?
One of the neatest discoveries I've found lately is flame instabilities
near extinction. I had hypothesized that they should exist based upon
some 1g experiments. Then, during the first drop tower experiment to look
for them, we found them in spades! It is very exciting to have your ideas
proven in front of your own eyes.
[ Sandra - 19 - 12:30:13 ]
RE: [Susan/NASAChatHost] How
are the opportunities for students in chemical engineering these days
at NASA? and in industry?
I hired in at NASA in 1983 with a BS in Chemical Engineering. I know of
a number of Chem. E.s that work here at Glenn in the fuels, materials,
safety, and environmental offices, so I would say there are definitely
opportunities for Chem. E.s at NASA. My husband is a Chem. E. in industry.
There are always advertisements in the paper for chemical engineers, so
I'd have to say there are plenty of opportunities there as well, especially
if you have some biochemistry or biomedical background as well.
[ Sandra - 23 - 12:31:57 ]
RE: [Bonnie] What kind of schooling does your career
require?
While I hired in with only a BS degree in chemical engineering, I've since
completed my Master's degree and PhD in Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering.
To do research, a PhD is definitely a good idea. However, as in my case,
you don't need to start with one!
[ Sandra - 24 - 12:34:06 ]
RE: [Julie] How do you balance your personal life
and career? Do you have a family?
I won't kid you and say it is easy, but it is never dull! I have 2 daughters,
8 and 11, and they are joys to be with. We do lots of activities together,
like horseback riding lessons, karate, and ice skating.
[ Sandra - 26 - 12:37:46 ]
RE: [Sarah] What is your typical day like at NASA?
A typical day for me is to get the kids up and onto their school buses
and then head to work. I try to have a drop tower test scheduled for shortly
after I start work, so I can get some research in every day. Then I head
to the office and get caught up on emails and phone messages. I often
have a meeting or two every day, and I spend time analyzing the data from
the testing. The analysis is either crunching numbers or using a video
tracking system to analyze the flame images from the video of the test.
I also spend time writing technical papers of the results. At the end
of the day, I pick up the kids from their after-school program, and head
home for some fun!
[ Sandra - 28 - 12:38:47 ]
RE: [Amy] What inspired you to work in the field
you are in?
My 7th grade science teacher, Mr. Armstrong, really got me interested
in research. It was in 7th grade that I decided I wanted to do research.
I've never regretted that choice!
[ Sandra - 30 - 12:40:39 ]
RE: [Rachel/PresentationHS] Would you encourage
your daughters to get involved with science and technology?
Definitely! I encourage all young women to consider technical fields.
The 1st step to doing that is to take the science and math classes in
school.
[ Sandra - 33 - 12:43:09 ]
RE: [Mary/ColumbiaHS] What kind of advice would
you give to girls like your daughters, or other girls like me?
Take math and science classes, and if you have a particular interest,
see what you can do to explore it! For example, my older daughter is interested
in veterinary medicine. Since we have lots of pets, and are regular customers
at the clinic, I asked the vets there if they would allow her to shadow
them for a day. They agreed! So ask, and you will be amazed at how willing
folks are to help you out!
[ Sandra - 37 - 12:46:17 ]
RE: [Mary/ColumbiaHS] I read your profile - so
do you work with fire a lot? Did you like it as a kid, too?
Actually, no. After watching Bambi as a child, I had nightmares about
fires. Most kids were traumatized by the mother getting shot, but I was
apparently strongly impressed with the ending forest fire where Bambi
and his dad had to swim to an island to reach safety. I never dreamed
I would one day study it. One of my primary objectives is to make spaceflight
SAFER, so I guess I'm trying to keep fires from ever being a problem by
learning about them.
[ Sandra - 38 - 12:48:34 ]
RE: [Mary/ColumbiaHS] What did you like to do when
you were younger?
I was a real tomboy as a kid. I spent a lot of time in the woods, in streams
looking for crayfish, or riding my bike. As a teen, I really liked to
read books, especially science fiction and fantasy. I was voted class
bookworm of my high school class!
[ Sandra - 39 - 12:50:51 ]
RE: [Sarah] So you do testing every day?
Right now, yes. But if I'm in the middle of writing a big paper, I sometimes
stop and really focus on that. A lot also depends on the facility availablility.
Also, I don't always do the tests myself. I usually have at least one
or two summer students who do the experiments for me. Also, other engineers
on the project teams sometimes do the tests.
[ Sandra - 42 - 12:54:06 ]
RE: [Liz] What happens with the info you find during
research? What do you use it for?
Usually, we write papers to appear in combustion journals that adds to
the scientific understanding of combustion. Then when the textbooks for
college classes are re-written, the new information is included. The microgravity
combustion area has really blossomed in the last decade, and appears in
almost all the textbooks now. A new output of my research is in applying
it to safety systems. For example the 1st action on the Space Station
when a smoke detector goes off is to shut off the airflow within that
rack. That action is based on our understanding that flow enhances fires
in microgravity, so if you stop the flow, you can smother the fire.
[ Sandra - 43 - 12:54:49 ]
RE: [Nicole] Have you ever seen a launch?
Not in person, but I've watched many on TV. I hear it is an awesome experience!
[ Susan/NASAChatHost - 44 - 12:55:03
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Wow This has been a great chat! Good questions and good answers. After
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[ Sandra - 45 - 12:56:00 ]
RE: [Katie/PioneerElementary] Would your results
and research help regular people?
Since most of my work is geared toward microgravity, it probably won't
help regular people until us regular folks get a chance to go to space.
But I hope that day is in our lifetime!
[ Sandra - 48 - 12:58:35 ]
RE: [Mary] That's cool about making flights safer.
What have you discovered to make them safer.
I mentioned in another response about the space station fire response
system, but I'm also working to improve NASA's materials screening test
methods for flammability.
[ Sandra - 49 - 12:59:31 ]
RE: [Brooke] What do you think about mentoring?
Mentoring is really fun! I've had lots of summer students and I learn
from them as much as they learn from me. I'm also mentoring middle school
girl scouts locally.
[ Susan/NASAChatHost - 51 - 13:01:32
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Thanks Sandra This has been a terrific Chat!
[ Sandra - 52 - 13:03:05 ]
RE: [Sarah] Do other people help you with your
research? Do you use information from other people's research?
I collaborate with other researchers, so often we work together to accomplish
the work. Each member of the research team brings their own expertise
to the project, and that always makes the project better. I also keep
up with what other researchers are doing, so I can learn from them as
well. That way what I do ADDS to the knowledge base.
[ Sandra - 53 - 13:05:13 ]
RE: [Liz] What kind of difficulties were you up
against to enter this field of work?
While I'm one of only a small number of women in the field, I haven't
realy found that to be a problem.
[ Sandra - 54 - 13:07:23 ]
RE: [Brooke] will you ever be finished learning
about microgravity combustion?
Combustion is very complex, with fluid mechanics, heat transfer, complex
chemical reactions, and phase change. We've been studying combustion in
general for a long time, and the microgravity aspect of it is showing
us how much of what we thought we understood we really didn't because
the gravity effect was not properly accounted for. So, I think it will
be a while.....
[ Sandra - 56 - 13:08:29 ]
RE: [Susan/NASAChatHost] Thanks
Sandra This has been a terrific Chat!
Thank YOU! And thanks to all of you who asked questions! I really enjoyed
this chat.
[ Sandra - 57 - 13:11:42 ]
RE: [Sally] Do you use computers in your work?
All the time! I use the computer in the tests to take data, after the
test to analyze the data, and after the analysis to write the papers.
I also use the computer to communicate with other researchers. When I
started here, the only computers were the big supercomputers, and regular
folks like me had to write things by hand, graph things by had, etc. It
seems like the dark ages now!
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